Addressing the fourwinds10.com post today

By Candace Frieze & Christ Michael

Hello everyone. Patrick published a message today, and it has been posted here on the website. Christ Michael chose to answer it. So the work follows, with his answers after each of 7 statements made. I did not visit 4Winds, I simply copied what was posted here. 

Here are some of the clues I have gathered recently:
1. On Friday, December 23, 2005, G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney were placed under House Arrest by good U.S. Military and Star People, Bush in Crawford, Texas, and Cheney in his bunker in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. In spite of what you may see in the lying media, they still remain under House Arrest in these locations.

Christ Michael: Alright people, use your common sense on this one. Both have been very openly paraded in front of the people, and no they were not placed on house arrest at that time. The star people did none of what this statement makes. I am not the source of this information, and neither is Sananda. Bush is under arrest, recently as told through Lauren, but he is being paraded before the public. I would have preferred the folks on the ground made the excuse that he was ill, rather than parading him. Understand that I have delegated certain responsibilities to others, and this was not my decision.

There is the ongoing attempt to not overly frighten the many folks, including the unthinking and simple folks in the media, and government. Frightened people do unpredictable things. I do leave some of these decisions to those advanced souls within the media who understand the effect of news on their audiences. 

2. Between Christmas Day, December 25, 2005 and New Years Day, January 1, 2006, a Galactic Federation meeting was held with the leaders of 100 nations on Earth Shan. These leaders all agreed to assist in bringing peace to Earth Shan when the NESARA announcement is made, yet this month, by helping to contain the Dark U.S. Military present in their countries.

Christ Michael: This did not occur. We did hold a meeting in early December in Africa, with some world leaders, which I will not name today, and with a variety of star commanders, to devise a way to get this done. During this occasion, I gave of my personal support to the endeavor developed.

3. On Sunday, January 1, 2006, 12:05 a.m. EST the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank signed their authority over to the Treasury of the Republic of the united States of America. At the same time the U.S. federal debt was paid off to relieve the stress on other countries when the banking change is made to a gold system.

Christ Michael: This is a total falsehood. The Federal Reserve is still quite in business, until we do show the president is publicly removed. The US federal debt was not paid off, and this comment makes no sense anyway. The Federal debt, as used in this comment, just what is this Federal Debt? Is it the debt owed by Americans to the Federal Reserve? Is it the National Debt, which is just another name for the Federal Reserve Debt basically? Most of the United States corporate debt (The corporation that owns this country, illegally) is owed to the Federal Reserve, and the remaining to other private banking institutions around the world. And how also, does the paying of this Federal Debt, relieve the stress of other countries?

I will also comment, that banks are having to buy the gold, it is not a gift to them. Certain gold stolen and hidden after World War II, is being, or will be returned to rightful owners, and form a basis also to the monetary system. Banks will continue to buy precious metals. Those that do not, will be out of business, under the legal standards being set. That is the purpose in part of the huge amount of money they will make with the arrangement of paying off the credit card debt. They will receive large credits for each account, which Dove has disclosed in the past. They will have a profit. For the money, or payoff to have any meaning, and be "spendable" they will buy the precious metals with it.

Much of the work this month, has been about creating the legal structure necessary to end the Federal Reserve's reign of terror. Yes, a reign of terror, you are controlled through your taxes by them, and they run much of the world's banking. They are terrorists. In fact, for some many months now, we have had lawyers sympathetic to our cause investigating the origins of the many laws in place.

4. On Wednesday, January 11, 2006, the five top U.S. cabinet members were arrested for treason.

Christ Michael: There have been several arrests, but they are being fought and questioned at this time. These folks are not in custody yet at this time. They were released through the actions of their lawyers, on rather small bail. These are the legal issues, Candace was discussing last night.

5. On Friday, January 13, 2006, fourteen bankers and fourteen politicians, including Tom Delay, were arrested for treason. There were also three suicides. Later that day some Dark U.S. Military tried and failed to free these prisoners. There is now blood on the White House carpet!

Christ Michael: There is no blood on the White House carpet. There have been quite a few suicides of people, that are rather unknown at this time before the public, those who pull the strings. Arrest warrants have been served to many, and again, lawyers arrange bail. We are working heavily in solving these issues, legally, and in dismantling the laws under the fake constitution that serves these ones. We are having to deal with judges who are corrupt. These (corrupt judges) will face, or have faced warrants also these past couple of weeks, as needed. This will not be made into an invasion by the star peoples, I will not allow that. It will and is being done within the true laws of the country. We have lawyers who are determining the real laws, from the ones that serve the fake constitution.

But indeed the dark military has been trying to recapture those that are being held. There have been several battles. These battles do not occur in the areas the public sees in the White House. When occurring in the White House, they occur in the lower underground levels. Because of the dark military, and its greater force, is exactly why I went to Mars to negotiate there, and bring supportive American military back to Washington to assist in the numbers game, and who are trained and focused. 

6. On Friday, January 13, 2006, NESARA was set to be announced, but due to the chaos in Washington, D.C. it has now been postponed until the last full week of January, 2006.

Christ Michael: I have not set any such date. I am not totally sure of the time frame involved, the legal challenges are nearing the end. I do hope to go forward publicly by the end of this week. That is the goal set, because in setting a time frame, more is accomplished, than is with an open time frame. Note that the time frame can and does change. In this wait, by the method used, we have everything legal, unto the real laws of the land. Thus we do not face challenge afterwards. 

7. Based on the work of special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and his Grand Jury, there are another 300 arrests yet to be made.

Christ Michael: the nature of this is not public, for good reason at this time. By making this statement, perhaps Patrick should realize that he puts Mr. Fitzgerald at some degree of risk. We will not risk publicizing at this time, any names of whom Mr. Fitzgerald is working with, we wish no murders or suicides at this time. 

Much of what you have read over the last couple of months by Stew Webb and others, is not necessarily correct. Stew Webb's intents are honorable, but he and his friend Tom Henegan are often given false information by their sources, and they have difficulty with discrimination. The names they are given by their "trusted" sources, often result in attempts at murder of these people, and that is the point. The name is put into the public, so that those that are programmed are given their marching orders. This makes the job of those on the ground much more difficult, in the nature of protection, as it does also for us. Stew Webb's messages are often coded after they leave his computer, so ones who carry out these instructions are alerted to whom they are to attack. Stew does not apparently know this.

I am not currently working with Patrick, nor is Sananda Immanuel. His information in this is not from us, or from those on our team. Patrick does not discriminate his sources of information, always assuming he is totally protected. He is not. We have him plasma shielded, as we do Candace (and her entire mobile home park), but plasma shields do not filter telepathy. Notice that Patrick often posts his works as occurring around midnight. Patrick is connected to the CIA's "council of light" program. We disabled this in November, the programming he had for the connection, but this did not change the situation. So we are not working with him at this moment.

It is time to tell the truth here. Candace had asked that Patrick be given ample opportunity to realize this problem, she was in a good deal of distress. Patrick sent Candace, around November 1st, two messages from the CIA's "Council of Light" program. These messages asked Candace to bow down to Patrick, submit to him. The messages asked her to abandon AbundantHope, its real intent, and to merely keep the organization pretty and little more. For that she would be comfortable for the rest of her life, on the CIA payroll. 

She just said NO to this. But she anguished for some 10 days over the message coming through Patrick. She has received many of these council of light (Candace: I call this the council of the not so light) messages since the beginning of this project. Sananda paused the messages twice over these, and several out and out dangerous threats last spring. That the messages came from Patrick written also around midnight, sent her into great shock. She was accustomed to them from strangers, but to come from Patrick, was sickening to her. She was in trust of him.

So were we. I ordered the removal of the programming. We suspect the programming occurred a few years ago, when he provided for Rama and his wife (the A &A's) for several months, supporting them and paying their bills. He supported them, because they told him the story, that Rama was Ashtar's son, and that Patrick was supposed to do this. Patrick realized he was being taken after a period of time. Rama during this time put on his fake channelings of Shekhmet, in which he did not turn into her, as was described by a friend of the A's quite a few months ago now. He merely used his pot and put on a show, changing into the growling voice, which Shekhmet does not use. She does not trance though Rama, and if she did, it would not cause Rama to growl. Candace did listen to this over a conference call in February last year and knew quite immediately that the A's were frauds.

Trance channeling does make use of the channeler's vocal cords, and there will be noticeable personality change, but the voice remains the same, the same vocal cords will not growl. In fact, if you attend a trance channeling, and there is not a personality change, than the channeling is being faked. I have given Patrick more than enough time to realize his errors. I am saddened that he continues in this activity. I will state with absolute certainty, as will Sananda, that his Grandmother Anna is not working with Patrick at this time. Either Patrick is totally making this up by intent, or he is still working with the Council of the Not So Light, in the CIA's program. Patrick, it is time to wake up, please do so.

Sananda Immanuel made a personal visit to Patrick in November, because Patrick sent letters of strong disapproval to Candace about AbundantHope. Sananda explained to Patrick the purpose of AbundantHope, and was told to go to hell. This had been explained also to Patrick, via channeling last summer, when he began to send Candace some very nasty email. She has tolerated this, she is saddened by all of this, and often sends Patrick light beams, surrounding him in Christ Light. 

Even after doing so, he wrote the damaging material in December, material that was intended to draw attention away from the work of Sananda through Lauren, Helen, and Hal, and Candace. Patrick has strayed greatly. We continue to hope that he will awaken to this. He will loose the Phoenix Journal project if he does not. We will give it to another, as right now, we do not have trust in his capabilities. We will wait a bit longer before taking more action. The unpublished Journals are on my computer also, and in safe keeping. 

I repeat here very strongly. Candace is on our team. She is a firm member. AbundantHope is our project with her. It is a Second Coming organization. She is totally trusted by us. She continues, if she questions anything in her telepathy, to ask questions. She knows that telepathy is not protected by a plasma shield. And she would feel awful, if she made an error, and would apologize and correct it immediately. I do have a star person, on the ground reading the Internet, as I have said, and Candace's posts come back to me. I find no error in transmission, not once, during this now nearly 12 months of work.

She continues to question everything I say, and will not post that which she is not comfortable with, in terms of you, her readers. I am often told to word something differently, because of her knowledge of her readers. Yes, she tells the Christ, if she is not happy, also to Sananda. She has told me No more than once, I assure you. Or made some suggestions of better wording and communication. 

She personally spoke to Sananda and Atmos about the discrepancy in communications that occurred yesterday, in making the statement that Bush was arrested, just as folks watched him in public live on TV. She can paint the picture of your expected reactions, and does so. That is what a member of our team should be doing. She has made it clear, she will no longer put out exact dates, for example, because of the presumed interference of the BBB&G's. She insists that times are given as presumed or suggested, or desired. Enough said for today. 

Patrick, this is the Christ, your Creator God, Aton speaking unto you. You are controlled by others, and your plasma shield does not filter telepathy, which is pure energy, and can't be filtered. You were most likely programmed years ago by Rama. I removed that programming in November, after which you in December, the 19th I believe lashed out against my and Sananda's various true messengers.

Lauren has been prepared by Sananda, and others, to take on the work of communicating technical information to those who can make it a reality. She has been specially gifted with circuits that allow her to receive information by "automatic" typing, that will provide very clear details. Lauren does not have a scientific background, and regular telepathy requires this to be accurate. In addition, there will be new information given through her, that even if she was a scientist, she would not know. This is not the same as "chipping", these are circuits, actual brain circuits provided that allow this flow of information. She will be able to do this for several star folks, and also she will be a conduit from the amino acid computer, that Helen affectionately calls Euclid.

When you are all mature enough, amino acid computer technology will be given unto you. It is infallible, in that it does not make the kind of errors that electronic computers do. Amino acid computers are aboard my ship, and many others belonging to the higher realms of peoples and angels who are entrusted in their use. These computers are fully alive, interact with life, and will not carry out the work of the dark, do to the concept of like attracts like. They do not think for themselves however, in the way that beings do. They are not beings in the full sense of the word. Thus they will not do what the computer Hal did, in the movie, 2001. They do not become evil, because they are not human, nor are they angels. There is no concept of "will" in them.

They do a great deal more work, store information in the manner that DNA does. Notice what your bodies do, and what your brain, an amino acid computer in a sense does. You control it however, in your choices to harm or help others. These are not choices made by your brain. They are made of the other stuff of which you are made. But the brain can be programmed by others to serve them, but this also requires your cooperation, your awareness. However, most people are not aware.

This subliminal negative programming is not taught, this is the influence of Satan, that is not taught in churches. People do not in general know how to just say no to this. Thus the apathy. Of course, the satanic influences downgraded the DNA of people, so that there is not enough intelligence to just say no. Those of you awake, are able to detect this, and just say no to it. Many of your are chipped, in fact most or all of you, if you have taken vaccines, and certain other injected medications. These chips do not work on you, in part because you just say no to behaviors that have no appeal to you, and because of the like attracts like issue. These are dark programs. 
Remember that many people are not dark by choice, they are dark because of lack of knowledge. Knowledge is light. Knowledge enables better choices.

These folks in organized religion make poor choices because of poor knowledge. HUman (higher universal man), both of spirit and DNA knows right from wrong, and is naturally of the light, by DNA and by choice. Your personal awareness allows you choice, even with a chip. The chip affects your brain waves, but your spirit will notice and cancel the effect. Mind over matter, as the saying goes.

It is time for me to return to the work ahead of me today. I had some free time while I await further news of events to come. The legal challenges of the dark side are coming to an end, quite shortly now, hopefully during this day. Then we can move on. Namaste, I AM Christ Michael, Creator Son of Nebadon.

Candace: I want to make a few additional comments regards what happened with Patrick. Christ Michael has told me, is it up to me whether I post his comments above or not. I think it is time, since I do still receive challenging email, as well as posts in the forum, to tell the whole story. I did not know Patrick prior to starting this project. I had only written a few emails of no consequence prior to then, such as acquiring some cell cultures from him, and comments noting the star ships in the sky. I thanked him at some point for publishing material I wrote for Lewis News.

Speaking of Lewis News, Schantz gave me a great gift in talking me into being a columnist for him. The practice at writing I got, definitely was influential in helping me make the decision to do the messages. I suggested to him at least a couple months ago now, that I would send a note out to my list, to ask for some small donations to assist him in staying in business. He is retired and on a limited income. I forgot to do that, in attending to getting the website up. A couple of my readers did make donations in my name last summer, when I refused help from them, and asked that they send a bit of money to Schantz instead, because I was finding it difficult to donate my $10 a month I promised. You can do this if interested, by going to www.lewisnews.com and following the directions.

Back to the topic at hand. I had many emails back and forth with Patrick, writing to him first immediately after he put up the first 6 messages dating from January 31, on February 12th. He wrote back warmly that he was pleased to do so, that this was the first in some time, that there had been messages from Sananda that he felt were real. And I am still in great appreciation for this gift of publishing that Patrick so freely gave at the time. And so should you continue to be grateful.

But over the summer I received many emails from readers, providing me with their questions to Patrick and answers they received. Many were told that guess which planet they would be living on if they did not make the correct decisions. People were also told that certain relatives that had passed were on the other planet, and they found this disturbing. I did on one occasion, because a reader was very upset at this, contact the relative, and found her still very much here, and as warm and loving in her energy field as the reader suggested. I gave a message to my reader from her relative, who was delighted to have the opportunity to do so. I do not wish however, time wise, to engage in this activity on a regular basis. I am only telling this story as an example. 

Late this fall, some readers wrote Patrick letters asking what was going on, they saw a change in him. He wrote back to some (and these sent me the actual emails) that if they did not support Patrick, they were of the dark, and guess where they were also going. The other planet, and the void planet, to me, seem to be Patrick's version of hell fire. This is my personal opinion from these long months. I fail to see that Patrick is the one who has the ability to decide who goes where. I would never tell people where they are going, it is not my job to do so, nor would I make this kind of judgement about somebody. 

Indeed I was pretty horrified at the council of light letters. They came around 1/2 hour apart, and I exchanged several emails with Patrick over them. I considered that possibly his computer or server had been hijacked and used in his name. I wrote to ask him, and he confirmed he was responsible for the letters. I also had another trace the source of the emails first to make sure they had come through his server. 

My password has been stolen, I have to change it frequently, and email sent out in my name, including one connecting me with Nazi activity in Germany. I received a huge number of bounce notices at that time, from email addresses not in my address book. The BBB&G's have sent mail in my name with attachments, and those opening them have experienced difficulty with their computers. I will repeat here, I never send attachments for this reason. Do not open one, should you receive one.

Patrick stated he had not heard from me since Nov. 9, but I did send him an email in late November, again about his Dove statements, and mentioning where gold was stored. He replied to it, and his reply has disappeared. I thought I saved it, but maybe I accidentally hit the delete button. I do have the answer I wrote back, but never actually sent, because I had delayed sending it to review it, and then simply forgot, because I was working on getting the website open.

I received some surprising email last summer, in July from Patrick attacking my work with AbundantHope, calling me lazy in not publishing more works from the Masters, angry over my comments on my personal life, and the matrix issues around my living in a mobile home park. I had sent an email to my list asking for advice on some matters. Sananda answered to the Abundanthope issues through me at that time, and all of that is missing. Later materials I have saved to a CD in safekeeping. The missing materials were merely saved within my ISP software, which is still to my harddrive, but in the ISP files. I took to saving everything to a regular file on my hard drive, and also copying to a CD. 

The letters, channelings from the council of the not so light, I shared with several people with whom I trust. I also shared much of my feelings. John and Nawlene can attest to my distress during those long 10 days until I was able to let go, with some help from Rafael cleaning my energy fields. I knew Patrick had firm opinions, as is his right, and I felt that his experience as a minister influenced who he is. I was accepting of this, because none of us are perfect all the time. I admired that he did stayed with his beliefs and doesn't back down, even if I don't personally agree with them.

But to get these messages on November 1, actually November 2, (they were written very late Nov 1), was for me an absolute horror. Because I know what this program is, and I never suspected Patrick as working in this. I made the immediate assumption, after I confirmed they came from him, that he was not aware of what this council of light program really is. I received back from him, again, that he is fully protected and thus could not be used by the darkside. On our contacts on Nov. 9, I received a pretty awful letter from him, which totally did not describe who I am. So then, I began my recovery from this, realizing that further attempts at communication would be unsuccessful in resolving the issues, and walked away. I did send my list a personal note, asked that the note not be published, it was personal, and then Patrick published it anyway. 

He posted that he never refused to be on the cleric letter. He didn't, he didn't answer it one way or the other, when I wrote to him. That was the day he sent me the long "trashing" of myself, and AbundantHope, so I came to the logical conclusion that he did not want to remain on it. I also did not want to send people to him, only to find nasty material about me on the website. I have also asked Patrick, after Dec. 19th, to remove my work from his website, since he finds it so offensive.

I notified him, I would no longer send him the messages, in late October and early November. He became apparently unsupportive of the work with Rafael, as part of his discontent. The Rafael messages were by reader request, and for Patrick, they seemed, I guess to fall out of the bounds of the Phoenix Journal material. I was left confused, because Sky doc Rafael, is ArchAngel Rafael, and certainly this very fine healing ArchAngel, serving those of us on Earth, is worthy of being part of these messages, in my book anyway. 

I have written short notes to Patrick recently advising him we are again in announcement mode, but he did not answer. I will not publish all our communications, because his letters are horrid. I sent every one of them, and my answers to trusted friends, for their comments and evaluation. I was completely open and upfront with Nawlene, and John, with my emotions around this. I sent many of the letters to others also. Mike Pitts and Cara received a bunch of them, and some emails expressing my pain. I felt my answers to Patrick were justified and thoughtful. They were confrontative, but I assure you, it was in my defense, and they were tactfully written, and they were honest. I do not play games. 

I continue to wish Patrick the best, I hope he comes around, and I sincerely hope he will chose to go forward with his chosen messianic work of caretaker and publisher of the Journals, even though he told me he does not support my teaching of becoming messiahs, or that AbundantHope is a Second Coming organization, or that I sit upon the planning committee for all of this. I do desire a personal apology from him. I have forgiven him, there was never even the idea that I would not. Even in my horror, the forgiveness was there immediately. 

I have known always, that forgiveness is a powerful tool, forgive them Father (us as Father), for they know not what they do. It allows healing of our souls, it is something I had to do, to separate from the childhood abuse, and the rapes I have experienced in this life. It is forgiveness that allowed my survival from many horrors upon the Earth plane, including my last life in Dachau. But I do desire a public apology, since he made such public comments. It would be necessary for us to re establish the friendship I thought was there, and chose to believe in and trust. This was a huge violation of my trust. It was a stab at the core of my being. There is forgiveness, but trust is gone. I ask that you do not send negative emails to Patrick, in my support, but that you forgive also, and remain loving of this man.

So we move on. I do not wish to continue in discussion over this difficult situation. I still receive email around it, from folks who are finding this out later, and then take a stab at me. I do not desire energy lost to it further. I had hoped so much that Patrick could also move on, I hoped to get an email from him, saying could we just start over, and if it ever comes, I will agree to just start over. After all, this is all about Two Or More In My Name. I highly desire that Patrick continue in his works, that he become in fact, greater. That is the point of AbundantHope, that you all become greater, that you discover your God given powers and run with it. That we combine in our motivations and visions to find ways to serve and build our New Earth, Two Or More In My Name. Namaste. Take care, Candace